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How does this effect work? Is it based on my total mana or 30% of the total of all my "X% increased maximum Mana" from the tree.

Using Path of Building, I have 308% increase Mana from the tree. So if it's based off this value, will I get ~92% increase?

If not, is it 30% of my maximum mana (4750)?

I'm asking because I have taken nodes to increase my Int (40 Int, 8% increased Int). I was under the impression that Mind Over Matter would split the damage between my mana and my ES/Life so I built for high ES/Int/Mana. Now that I know that's not the case, I'm thinking of dropping a lot of Int for Life scaling (Life/Mana). But, I don't want to do drop these nodes if the Transfiguration of Mind effect is based off my total mana.

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Posted by
MalakED
on Sep 9, 2019, 8:02:09 PM

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"Increases and reductions to mana also apply to damage at 30% of their value."
If you look at the keystone of Hierophant, it's literally in the skills description.

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If not, is it 30% of my maximum mana (4750)?

No, you don't get 1500% increased damage.

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Posted by
Lightelder
on Sep 9, 2019, 9:08:58 PM

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MalakED wrote:

I was under the impression that Mind Over Matter would split the damage between my mana and my ES/Life so I built for high ES/Int/Mana. Now that I know that's not the case, I'm thinking of dropping a lot of Int for Life scaling (Life/Mana).

lol I did the exact same thing. Got all the way to maps in hardcore blight league thinking I was sooo tanky with my 50% MoM hybrid hierophant until I realized that my primary defensive layer was a lie. Now I need to respec half my build to be pure life and just use the bit of ES I get from mana on eldritch battery. I'm too poor to afford the regrets I need at the moment so I'm unsure how I'm gonna progress. Maybe sell my oils. Woe is me. I'll figure it out.

To answer your question, yeah I'm pretty sure it scales with your % increased maximum mana.

Edit: Actually (not that anyone cares) I'm just gonna go hybrid without much investment into ES. I have enough mana to support MoM without EB, and I'm trying to build around the whole 'no mana reserved' thing. Figured im gonna get some ES either way from my ascendancy so I might as well just have it there as a 'why not' defensive layer. Also it forces me to play safe cause I try to keep it full despite being perfectly tanky enough to survive without it. I was never a huge fan of armour or evasion anyway cause they are not applicable to most damage types, while ES is applicable to most.

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Posted by
DarkLegionary
on Sep 11, 2019, 9:49:10 PM

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Lightelder wrote:

"Increases and reductions to mana also apply to damage at 30% of their value."
If you look at the keystone of Hierophant, it's literally in the skills description.

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If not, is it 30% of my maximum mana (4750)?

No, you don't get 1500% increased damage.

Okay, yes, well.. what does he get, then?

Let's say I picked up 300% increased mana from the tree, not including jewels. That should then mean I get roughly 100% increased spell damage?

Now let's say that, through various gear and jewels, I scrape together another 100% increased maximum mana (not raw mana; merely increased). That'll add another 30% increased - or not? Does the node factor only what's on the tree?

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I've checked, the increase is tied to any form of "X% increased Mana". This is mainly from the tree but gear can provide it as well.

The calculations come down to about 333% increase mana for 99.99999% increased spell damage. This is not too extreme to get from the tree when gained from combination nodes and will easily cover the 2000 mana needed for Prodigal Perfection that will wield another 40% increased spell damage.

Whether its beneficial or not is to be seen. I am using MoM + EB and have ~96% of my mana reserved for Aura's/Heralds. I can run off the 2K ES i have and even when depleted, my unreserved mana regens so fast I am "never" out of mana. With all that, I still feel the damage is too low to really engage with the league mechanics and I struggle to deal enough damage. I'm sure its my "plan" that's the issue though.

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Posted by
MalakED
on Sep 13, 2019, 2:06:57 PM

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BlaqWolf wrote:

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Lightelder wrote:

"Increases and reductions to mana also apply to damage at 30% of their value."
If you look at the keystone of Hierophant, it's literally in the skills description.

"

If not, is it 30% of my maximum mana (4750)?

No, you don't get 1500% increased damage.

Okay, yes, well.. what does he get, then?

Let's say I picked up 300% increased mana from the tree, not including jewels. That should then mean I get roughly 100% increased spell damage?

Now let's say that, through various gear and jewels, I scrape together another 100% increased maximum mana (not raw mana; merely increased). That'll add another 30% increased - or not? Does the node factor only what's on the tree?

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Lightelder wrote:
"Increases and reductions to mana also apply to damage at 30% of their value."

Whats not to understand about that? 100% incr. mana = 30% incr. Damage.
Thats it. No rocket science. The skill does what this one sentence says.
+100 mana provides no damage bonus.
No, going all in on mana is still not worth it.

Let tomorrow be about solutions. Today is about vengeance.
- John Oliver

Had a Chaos-DoT-Caster-guide for any class, then 2021 patches happened^^ https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2485596

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Posted by
Lightelder
on Sep 13, 2019, 8:49:25 PM

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MalakED wrote:

The calculations come down to about 333% increase mana for 99.99999% increased spell damage.

Why *SPELL* damage ?
The description says "Damage" without further precision.
Doesn't it apply to all kind of damage (including totems) ?

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FNX_Heroes wrote:

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MalakED wrote:

The calculations come down to about 333% increase mana for 99.99999% increased spell damage.

Why *SPELL* damage ?
The description says "Damage" without further precision.
Doesn't it apply to all kind of damage (including totems) ?

Wouldnt it be like global damage? It doesnt affect minions because it isnt your damage but ti could affect your attacks and spells right?

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Your character gets/loses "increased/reduced" damage at 30% value of increased/reduced mana. Not minions. Generic increased damage for attacks and spells it seems. Atleast thats what the wiki and my PoB say.

Dammit, i helped to necro this.

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I have a question regarding this to does the mana available only count or like u actual maximum mana total. Im asuming that the mana reserved would count as "said" reduction?

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